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> I do. DIY on-site only system.

Agreed, that's the only way to build a secure system. I have some outdoor cameras but they are on a physically separate network and can't talk to anything.

Also, they are on ethernet but because they also support wifi I physically cut the antenna connections because I'm not about to trust the manufacturer of the camera to not try to exfiltrate something.

But sadly this is, while not difficult, too much for the non-techie person to do. So people just buy Ring cameras with all the associated privacy problems.

The worst is that while my system is secure, many of the surrounding neighbors have ring cameras outside so I can't protect from those!



> physically cut the antenna connections because I'm not about to trust the manufacturer of the camera to not try to exfiltrate something

This is not normal - there is no other industry where the customer routinely expects to be defrauded, and everyone to get away with it.


I'm not sure if you're talking about the security products industry but I think of the "conncted" industry is this way. It makes me fairly uncomfortable knowing that every move I'm making, either online or offline, is being uploaded to some server. I stopped installing apps, I stopped signing up to things, I set up automations to turn wifi and bluetooth off as I leave the house.


Well, there's crypto.


Is a pyramid scheme really an industry though?


Did someome say Housing?


You can't live in a bitcoin. Unlike housing, or land, which clearly have some value, the inherent value of crypto is $0. All prices are purely speculative.


Every industry where I'm given a device with potential network connectivity, I expect the manufacturer to use it for their own purposes.


It's the new normal, it seems. Same thing holds with the software industry.


>This is not normal - there is no other industry where the customer routinely expects to be defrauded, and everyone to get away with it.

Every try to buy event tickets?


Uh - used cars?


You could use 50 ohm terminator if you don't want to permanently destroy it.

Kinda shame we don't have more cameras running OSS software




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