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> because that's where the Timex factory where they built the ZX Spectrum was

You could say that, but there weren't any problems getting ZX Spectrums in Aberdeen, Glasgow, Edinburgh either, and the whole UK was awash with bedroom programmers making piles of games.

What I think actually put Dundee on the map was David Jones, attending Dundee Institue of Technology (now know as Abertay University) in 1987, employing his friends Russell Kay, Steve Hammond and Mike Dailly to form the company DMA Design. They had a series of successful games on the Amiga, releasing the worldwide smash-hit Lemmings in 1991. This encouraged Abertay to offer the world's first computer games degree course in 1997. You can see how large an employer DMA Design was in 1996 in this interview [1] where they were working a little-known game called Grand Theft Auto they released in 1998...

I'd put the case that DMA Design and Abertay kickstarted the Dundee games industry themselves, they had a lot more influence than the Timex factory. Bathgate had the Motorola factory, Greenock had IBM, that didn't turn them into software hubs.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENyPdBo-yVI



Neither Bathgate nor IBM made inexpensive home computers that could be picked out of the reject pile, sneaked out under a jacket, repaired, and sold down the pub for 100 quid.

The thing is that while a lot of people throughout the UK, by Christmas '83 literally everyone in Dundee had a ZX Spectrum. Probably half the reason they had difficulty fulfilling orders is that so many "minor faults" ones on the lines ended up getting sold in pubs under the table, that would otherwise have been reworked and packaged for retail.

And I mean, literally *everyone*. If you wrote a game and you gave copies to your mates at school, by the end of the week everyone would be playing it, particularly if it was good but even if it wasn't, because it was *new* and you hadn't played it a million times.


I don't know if this is specifically your childhood experience, but you're describing also my childhood too, and I didn't grow up in Dundee. There were plenty of first- and second-hand ZX Spectrums to go around, VIC-20s, C16s, C64s, Amstrad CPCs, and the schools had BBCs. The UK went home-computer mad. Remember when there were type-in listings in C+VG? The Usbourne computer books? [1] INPUT magazine? [3] Kids were swapping tapes like crazy, and writing their own demos and games, all over the country.

While Timex may have played a part and the density of Speccies may have been higher in Dundee, I still think Timex's main contribution to Dundee's games industry was to make David Jones redundant, giving him the money to buy an Amiga 1000 [3]

[1] https://usborne.com/gb/books/computer-and-coding-books

[2] https://archive.org/details/inputmagazine

[3] http://www.javalemmings.com/DMA/DMA1_2.htm


> I still think Timex's main contribution to Dundee's games industry was to make David Jones redundant, giving him the money to buy an Amiga 1000

Valid.




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