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Don't people here think it's kind if suspicious that nothing ever positive gets written about China in the western media?

Something positive happened in China? CCP propaganda!

Like nothing ever good happens in a huge land with 1.4 billion people and thousands of years of rich history?

Only thing that ever gets posted here are how China steals IP, how Chinese people aren't smart enough to invent their own stuff (check long history), etc. etc.

It's really annoying.



1) I have never seen any derisive claims about the Chinese people on HN - just the Chinese government/CCP.

2) What do you expect? The Chinese government is actively running concentration camps. Most people in western democracies consider many of the Chinese government's policies to be outright immoral. They have a recent history of leveraging surveillance and propaganda - both unpopular in western societies - to a much higher degree than western nations. We could go tit-for-tat listing off both sides' history of atrocities, but the ruling party in China still refuses to even recognize some of their most noteworthy atrocities. China and the western world have been engaged for decades in a back-and-forth war of economics and diplomacy on a global scale, each vying to get significant leverage over the other. Did you really expect a lot of positive coverage of a nation whose history, actions, policies are so maligned by western society? One who poses such a significant risk to western ideals?

I'm not arguing that the western world is without blame, but it seems silly to expect such impartial coverage of China from a western perspective, all things considered.


Is it strange that nothing positive is ever said within China about the West?


Chinese media is full of positive stories about the West and the average Chinese person has plenty of positive things to say about different Western countries.


What are you talking about?

The Chinese name for America literally means "beautiful land". All of my Chinese friends were confused why America suddenly started hating it so much during Trump's era.

The level of ignorance regarding China here is astounding.


Since you seem to be knowledgeable about Chinese, I often hear people talk about "bye tsuo", "hey gwai" and "shah bee" when they discuss America. Have always been curious what those mean, do you know?

Btw your comments aren't actually a reply to the article at all, which is about the situation in Hong Kong. Instead it's whataboutism regarding Western bias. Any reason for not wanting to discuss the Hong Kong police state?


> how Chinese people aren't smart enough to invent their own stuff

You hear the same here about the EU and tech companies. You take it personally when it's about your own people.


https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30624579

The above article recently posted to HN doesn’t fall clearly into “steals IP” or “can’t invent their own stuff”.


The top comment is slandering it as propaganda, because it doesn't follow the narrative close enough. The top comment.

SV/USA can't have mature and fact-oriented discourse about China because it is in deep denial about SZ/China surpassing it. Started happening big time with TikTok.


I will give you that. What’s been shocking to me is that, while the Trump right is antagonistic to China, they see China as the highly capable future superpower that it is. Ironically it’s the anti-Trump left that dismisses China as a backwater that won’t ever be able to do anything but “steal IP.”

I used to think that way. I joked with my engineer friends 15 years ago about Huawei copying American-designed routers down to the English silk screening on the circuit boards. Seeing Huawei pump out their own state of the art switching and router chips disabused me of that notion.


Nerds have huge egos.


I’m not talking about the quality of the discussion. I was responding specifically to the point that the only things that get posted are around IP theft.


It was a hyperbole. But not too far off from reality though.


https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31012979

How about this one - China prioritises well-being over algorithms?

China has positives as well as negatives. There are positive comments as well as negative on HN. If you look for negative comments and stories you will find them.

If you look for positive stories I think you will also find them. If not, I’m happy to read your positive stories and comments about China.

A quote from the comments there:

“I feel like at some point, China might find a chill government who will let a lot of those slide or move into a more balanced position. I hope they do. I can see path for China to really become closer to a utopia than virtually any other place right now.”


Find me an upvoted positive post about China within the last year here.


https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31364321

Not sure if this counts as a positive post but at least it seems balanced and informative.




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