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I don’t understand. Are you saying you’re unbothered by the disingenuous use of unlimited vacation policies by start-ups and others seeking to avoid payouts on unused PTO while also creating a culture that implicitly pressures workers to take less vacation?

I’m not making a normative judgment about your comment (for example, you are clear that it’s totally down to your personal use of the vacation policy, and that you don’t consider how it affects others when deciding whether to be bothered by it ... this is not bad or good, just one particular way to attach an evaluation to the policy). I’m just asking to clarify b/c it’s not clear to me which aspect of my comment you’re replying to.



> Are you saying you’re unbothered by the disingenuous use of unlimited vacation policies by start-ups and others seeking to avoid payouts on unused PTO while also creating a culture that implicitly pressures workers to take less vacation?

I am saying that I am unbothered by exploiting an exploitative system that is not internally consistent.

If a company tells me unlimited vacation, that means unlimited vacation. If they tell me two weeks it means two weeks. If I am expected to infer that a policy is the opposite of what it says, then how can I remain sane?


What do you do in a company that tells you “unlimited vacation” but then takes subtle retaliatory or punitive action towards you, in ways fully insulated from any kind of worker appeal for wrongdoing?

Usually you’ll be pressured not to take much vacation, and passed over for promotion or raises, etc., if you don’t comply, and they’ll just manage you out, probably feeling happy when you eventually quit or something.

A lot of people are also stuck in the sense that they don’t have the financial freedom or job market liquidity to quit because of this, and are essentially forced to accept it or else go unemployed.




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