even for CRUD I'm finding it quite frustrating. The question is no longer whether AI can write the code you specify: it can

It just writes terrible code I'd never want to maintain. Can I refactor and have it cleaned up by the AI also? Sure... but then I need to specify exactly how it should go about it and eugh should I just be writing this code myself?

It really excels when there are existing conventions within the app it can use as example

Its blown me away also

I'm also fairly confident having it write my code is not a productivity boost, at least for production work I'd like to maintain long term

The idea for the site is interesting but there seems to be an incredible amount of misinformation on here

Yes. I absolutely agree. To fully optimize this system we must enact breeding restrictions to reduce the energy demands from the humans.

The worst is reviewing the code and realizing it stinks and should be done another way

So you re-roll the slot machine and pay the reviewing cost twice

I don't think AI's biggest strength is in writing code

I don't think there truly is a way to bulletproof yourself

Anything that AI can't do today could be convincingly argued that it will be able to do in 3 years. There's no-one that can tell you what the world will look like then

If you're seriously worried and can't take that risk then maybe look into switching careers

Learn to sell yourself. Learn to adapt quickly. Learn to learn

The days of having one skillset you learn deeply and monetize for 40 years are over

> The days of having one skillset you learn deeply and monetize for 40 years are over

This is a commonly held view - particularly among employers. And certainly some people can do it.

But the problem is that it takes time to build expertise and bargain that into something you can live on. And the more times you have to do that, the more you fall behind people who found a niche or a long-term role and stayed in it.

And you eventually find yourself in your late fifties, steamrollered by yet another wave of change, and you don't have the time or resources or energy, or just plain self-belief, to adapt again.

I am 30 years in professionally in June and 10 years as a hobbyist before that. I first started programming in 86 in assembly language

I’ve kept up with every wave in technology from 1996 when I was still programming ok mainframes, through web, a brief stint on mobile. “Full Stack development” (even though I suck at the web side), and since 2018 app dev + cloud including four years working at AWS.

I had three offers within 3 weeks after being Amazoned when I was 49 in 2023 and 1 offer in two weeks in 2024.

They are talking swapping fields completely like going into plumbing. Not simply picking up new tech.

See my other comment. One thing AI can’t do is talk to people and deal with XYProblems, organizational complexity, egos, turf wars, teasing out the “what”

Maybe they can in 3 to 5 years. Then you talk with them in Teams Meetings.

Their comments are full of "it's not x, it's y" over and over. Short pithy sentences. I'm quite confident it's AI written, maybe with a more detailed prompt than the average

I guess this is the end of the human internet

To give them the benefit of the doubt, people who talk to AI too much probably start mimicking its style.

yea, i was suspicious by the second paragraph but was sure once i got to "that’s not engineering, it’s cosplay"

It's also the wording. The weird phrases

"Glorified Google search with worse footnotes" what on earth does that mean?

AI has a distinct feel to it

And with enough motivated reasoning, you can find AI vibes in almost every comment you don’t agree with.

For better or worse, I think we might have to settle on “human-written until proven otherwise”, if we don’t want to throw “assume positive intent” out the window entirely on this site.

Dude is swearing up and down that they came up with the text on their own. I agree with you though, it reeks of LLMs. The only alternative explanation is that they use LLMs so much that they’ve copied the writing style.

I've had that exact phrase pop up from an LLM when I asked it for a more negative code review

Do all details matter equally? Maybe only 3/10 of them you really care about and you can leave the rest up to the contractor

That still requires you to evaluate all the details in order to figure out which you care about. And if you haven't built a kitchen before you, won't know what the details even are ahead of time. Which means you need to be involved in the process, constantly evaluating whether what is currently happening and if you need to care about it.

Which three? To which people? Congrats, you've discovered integration hell

What other layers are you referencing that OpenAI doesn't have?

And your entire argument is based around the possibility of it turning into a magic genie that can do anything

We are actually already at the level of magic genie or some sci-fi level device. It can't do anything obviously but what it can is mind blowing. And the basis of argument is obviously right - potential possibility is really low bar to pass and AGI is clearly possible.

Turning into a human-level intelligence. If you believe that it requires magic, well, it's your right.

A $3 calculator today is capable of doing arithmetic that would require superhuman intelligence to do 100 years ago.

It's extremely hard to define "human-level intelligence" but I think we can all agree that the definition of it changes with the tools available to humans. Humans seem remarkably suited to adapt to operate at the edges of what the technology of time can do.

> that would require superhuman intelligence to do 100 years ago

It had required a ton of ordinary intelligence people doing routine work (see Computer(occupation)). On the other hand, I don't think anyone has seriously considered to replace, say, von Neumann with a large collective of laypeople.